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ON THE SUBJECT OF ORIENTATION-CHANGE
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 This is an important subject that I want to talk to you about because there is so much confusion on the subject. Be sure to see another one of Justin Lee's great videos on this subject following my comments here. You can also watch several brief videos of ex-gay testimonials at the bottom of this page.
 
Now, there are two things that you should know: 
 

Homosexuality is an identity, not a behavior.

Abstinence and aversion are behaviors, not identity change.

 
"Orientation" refers to sexual ATTRACTION - not sexual LUST. Behavior is something you can control; but you cannot control a natural attraction. Do you like chocolate cake? You can't control that. It's who you are. Do you dislike chocolate cake? You can't control that. It's who you are. You didn't choose to like or dislike chocolate cake. And if you think that we cannot compare sexual tastes to food tastes, the Bible disagree with you by using that very example many times.
 
A heterosexual orientation means that a person has a natural un-chosen attraction to, and can enter into a romantic relationship with, members of the opposite gender.
A homosexual orientation means that a person has a natural un-chosen attraction to, and can enter into a romantic relationship with, members of the same gender.
 
So, what is the reality that one can change his sexual orientation? In other words, what are the posibilities that a gay man can STOP being attracted only to males and become ONLY attracted to females; or that a straight man can STOP being attracted only to females and become ONLY attracted to males?
 
The church tells us that God would not make us something that is not good (under their assumption that being gay is not good). So, if Christian parents gave birth to a deaf child, does that mean that God did not make this child?
 
Am I implying that homosexuality is a disability? A birth defect? Not at all. The point is that one cannot say that God would not make a person to be a certain way or thing, because that comes from a lack of understanding as to how a human is made.
 
The fact is, that God gives the breath of life when the sperm meets the egg. From there, nature takes over and determines the initial mental and physical make up of a human - which can only be altered by an outside influence (say, an operation that enables a lame person to walk, or medication which repairs a chemical imbalance....or, brainwashing which causes a person to think or behave contrary to their natural functions).
 
God MADE Adam and Eve from scratch (not from an egg and sperm), and then put within them the ability to procreate, and therefore every array of existance found in mankind was created as a result of Adam & Eve's union, whether that be males or females or disabilities or super abilities or left/right-handedness or hetero/homo-sexualities or nationalities or races or eye shapes or skin tones. All of these things were in them. The black man and the white man and the yellow man, the straight man and the gay man, the left handed man and the right handed man, the chocolate cake lover and the chocolate cake hater - these were all in Adam from the beginnning. And THAT is spoken of TWICE in Scripture.
 
The church and "ex-gays" claim that it is possible for gays to change their sexual orientation, saying "God can do anything!"
 
True homosexuals and "ex-ex-gays" claim that it is not possible, saying, "God made me gay, so why would He try to change me to straight?" 
 
Look, we all know that there is nothing that God cannot do. With God ALL things are possible. If He so chooses, He can change you from one race to another, or make an extra limb grow from your shoulder. He can turn your foot into a hoof. He can make your brown eyes blue. But asking whether or not God can do something is NOT the issue. The question we should ask is, "WOULD God do it?" Interestingly enough, when the church claims that God can make a gay person straight, they themselves do not even mean what they are saying because they believe that being gay is a personal choice - a personal act of will which the homosexual must willfully choose to abandon. The church simply claims that God would give homosexuals the strength to change THEMSELVES. In fact, God does NOTHING of the kind, and God has not once demonstrated such an act in all of Scripture. 
 
Simply giving up sex altogether does not constitute a change in orientation. Orientation exists in every single human whether they have sex or not.
 
When considering the issue of orientation change and whether or not it is possible, a heterosexual must ask himself or herself if it is possible for them to cease their own mental and physical attraction for only the opposite gender AND to become mentally and physically attracted only to members of the same gender; for this is exactly what the proponents of the "orientation change" doctrine would imply is possible. If it works one way, it must of necessity work in reverse as well. So, knowing that God can do anything, we are not asking "Can God Do It?", but rather, "Does God Really Work That Way?"  Watch the following video by Justin Lee on this subject, and be sure to watch the short videos following it to hear what members of exgay organizations themselves have to say.
 

 
 
 
 
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Dan Gonzalez - attended N.A.R.T.H. (National Association for the Research and Therapy of Homosexuality) under Dr. Joseph Nicolosi. Dan is a contributing author of ExGayWatch.com.
 
 
 

Lance Carrol - attended exgay ministry boot camp Love In Action.
 
 
 

Anthony Venn-Brown - attented Australia's first exgay program. 
 
 
 
 

Jose Luis Maccarone - the first Exodus International exgay  missionary to Spain.
 
 
 

Scott Tucker - attended Love In Action exgay ministry.
 
 
 

Christine Bekki - attended Exodus International, founder of Beyond Exgay.
 
 
 

Jaylen Braden - attended Desert Streams exgay ministry.
 
 
 
 

Victoria Lavin - 30 years as an exlesbian.
 
 
 
 

Jeff Willamson - after his Christian parents send him to a counselor for exgay therapy, they end up seeing a counselor to accept his homosexuality.
 
 
 

Michael Bussee - a cofounder of Exodus International exgay ministries.
 
 
 

Randy Baxter - attended Love In Action and Turn About exgay ministries.
 
 
 

Brian Nesbitt - was taught rubberband reparative therapy at NARTH exgay ministry.
 
 
 
 

Four people briefly but powerfully comment on homosexuality and christianity.
 
 
 

Jacob Wilson - attended Ex-Gay group Love In Action.

Wayne Besen - founder of Truth Wins Out, and press reporter, speaker & author on the gay/exgay movement.
 
 
 

CNN news brief demonstrating the perverse tactics of exgay therapy.
 
 
 
 

After 13 years in exgay therapy residency, Peterson Toscono tells what it's like.

After 13 years and thousands of dollars in exgay therapy, Peterson Toscono discusses "approved movies" in therapy camp.
 
 
 

The exgay movement claims that subjecting homosexuals to sports activity will help convert them to heterosexuality. Major League baseball star Billy Bean disagrees.

Famous evangelist Barbara Johnson gives godly advice to parents of gay children.

Darlene Bogle - founder of Paraklete Exgay Ministry.
 
 

John Holm - attended EXODUS INTERNATIONAL.
 
 
 

PART 1 - Interview with scientist and producer of the movie ABOMINATION

PART 2 - Interview with scientist and producer of the movie ABOMINATION

Scott Melendez - 7 years in the exgay ministries

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